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Posted: Apr 06 2007 at 6:43am | IP Logged Quote x0m6ie

Thinking about buying new wheels.   the guy at discount tire said there are not alot of options for my 05 crew cab.  i am looking at Ultra Roca or the Ultra T06 style wheels and have a question. the discount tire guy said the roca would not fit cause of the backspacing, but the web site said that it will...who do i beleive?

on the web site it said 16" 6x114.3 -10mm  so i am assuming that the -10mm is my offset.  if so what is the stock offset of my factory wheels? and the backspacing? and keep in mind it is a 05 not a 04 or earlier.  discount tire said there is a difference in bolt pattern and offset between the years.

also, anybody have any other good idears about wheels? looking for some insperation post up a pic if you got it.


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Posted: Apr 06 2007 at 12:31pm | IP Logged Quote Frontyfan

probably easiest you might be able to tell is to check the inside of your wheel, i.e. crawl under the truck and look at the back, you might be able to see, as the information is sometimes stamped on the wheel someplace

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Posted: Apr 06 2007 at 3:00pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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x0m6ie;

Here is a wheel diagram and a few facts that might aid some of the viewers of the thread.

http://groups.msn.com/TexasNissanTrucksTNT/4x4techhere.msnw

WHEELS and Back Spacing... update 01.19.06
... Axles have two WMS (Wheel Mounting Surfaces) - as on the hubs. This does not set the ‘track-width’ of the vehicle. The mounting surface of the wheel can optionally be on the centerline of the tire (zero off-set) or on ether side of the centerline (positive or negative off-set). Most of us use the Back-Space method to determine tire clearance and fitment. As the BS measurement gets smaller the ‘track-width’ of the vehicle gets wider. Older Chevrolet and Wagoneer 4x4s had a BS of about 3.625 inches. Some of the modern 4x4s now have a BS of 5.5 inches. This was done to improve the scrub angle of the front tires. A very small amount of Back Spacing can shorten wheel-bearing life.
... To measure the BS lay the wheel with the outside facing down. Lay a straight edge across the tire mounting lip and measure down to the mounting surface. Don’t confuse Back Space with Off-Set.

... Zero off-set means the mounting surface of the wheel is on the center-line. A wheel can have a positive or negative ‘off-set’. Most people prefer to use the Back Space measurement. As the Backspace measurements become smaller the wheels will be farther outboard and the vehicle will have a wider track width.

... I have run many thousands of miles with my Full Size Jeep wheels (6 on 5.5 15x8 /BS 3.625) on several Nissan 4x4s. The center of the jeep hub and it is about 4.200 inches.

... The Nissan centering hole is 3.925 inches in diameter so the centering hole of Nissan wheels would have to be turned to the bigger diameter to fit the FSJs. Some of the Nissan wheels may not fit over or clear the brakes but some will as they have a variety of BSs and over all diameters. 1999 Frontier Se 4x4 wheels are 6 on 5.5-15x7 and 5.250 BS.

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/1963-1983-Wagoneers /WheelDia3.jpg

  

Lug Nut Patterns

... The bolt pattern has two parts, the number of bolts and the the bolt circle diameter. The bolt circle is the circle which passes through the centerline of each of the hubs lugnuts. Wheels with 4, 6 or 8 bolt holes the measurement is simple: Measure from one hole center to the hole center directly across from it. Wheels with 5 bolt holes you measure from the center of one bolt hole to a line (or ruler) that is drawn between the opposite edge of the two opposing bolt holes. The bolt pattern is then indicated by the number of bolts times the bolt circle diameter - for example a 5x5" bolt pattern is 5 bolt hole arranged around a circle which is 5" in diameter. This may also be known as 5 on 5"

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Posted: Apr 08 2007 at 10:43pm | IP Logged Quote StormCrew

lakota wrote:

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x0m6ie;

Here is a wheel diagram and a few facts that might aid some of the viewers of the thread.

http://groups.msn.com/TexasNissanTrucksTNT/4x4techhere.msnw

WHEELS and Back Spacing... update 01.19.06
... Axles have two WMS (Wheel Mounting Surfaces) - as on the hubs. This does not set the ‘track-width’ of the vehicle. The mounting surface of the wheel can optionally be on the centerline of the tire (zero off-set) or on ether side of the centerline (positive or negative off-set). Most of us use the Back-Space method to determine tire clearance and fitment. As the BS measurement gets smaller the ‘track-width’ of the vehicle gets wider. Older Chevrolet and Wagoneer 4x4s had a BS of about 3.625 inches. Some of the modern 4x4s now have a BS of 5.5 inches. This was done to improve the scrub angle of the front tires. A very small amount of Back Spacing can shorten wheel-bearing life.
... To measure the BS lay the wheel with the outside facing down. Lay a straight edge across the tire mounting lip and measure down to the mounting surface. Don’t confuse Back Space with Off-Set.

... Zero off-set means the mounting surface of the wheel is on the center-line. A wheel can have a positive or negative ‘off-set’. Most people prefer to use the Back Space measurement. As the Backspace measurements become smaller the wheels will be farther outboard and the vehicle will have a wider track width.

... I have run many thousands of miles with my Full Size Jeep wheels (6 on 5.5 15x8 /BS 3.625) on several Nissan 4x4s. The center of the jeep hub and it is about 4.200 inches.

... The Nissan centering hole is 3.925 inches in diameter so the centering hole of Nissan wheels would have to be turned to the bigger diameter to fit the FSJs. Some of the Nissan wheels may not fit over or clear the brakes but some will as they have a variety of BSs and over all diameters. 1999 Frontier Se 4x4 wheels are 6 on 5.5-15x7 and 5.250 BS.

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/1963-1983-Wagoneers /WheelDia3.jpg

  

Lug Nut Patterns

... The bolt pattern has two parts, the number of bolts and the the bolt circle diameter. The bolt circle is the circle which passes through the centerline of each of the hubs lugnuts. Wheels with 4, 6 or 8 bolt holes the measurement is simple: Measure from one hole center to the hole center directly across from it. Wheels with 5 bolt holes you measure from the center of one bolt hole to a line (or ruler) that is drawn between the opposite edge of the two opposing bolt holes. The bolt pattern is then indicated by the number of bolts times the bolt circle diameter - for example a 5x5" bolt pattern is 5 bolt hole arranged around a circle which is 5" in diameter. This may also be known as 5 on 5"

Have a good one while you can still laugh about it.. Don S..

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Posted: Apr 13 2007 at 11:16pm | IP Logged Quote x0m6ie

I have now read that same post 3 times now and it answers no questions...i found my own answers... i have a 2005, stated in the first sentence of my post, not a 2004,2003,2002,2001,2000 or earlier...this post is for 2005+ wheels.

They have a 6x4.5 bolt pattern.
Need a offset of 12mm at 16x8 wheel. as stated in my first post 10mm offset will not fit for it will hit my brake calipers.
At 17x8 wheels it stays the same. 
The place where the 05+ frontier has the most options for wheels is 18x8 and that is a 18mm.

As you can tell its a rear wheel drive truck with a near front wheel drive offset. 

So as I asked my question, I found my answer. Helping people with 2005+ frontiers in the quest for wheels...Bonus
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