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Posted: Aug 13 2006 at 3:08am | IP Logged Quote Genova

Hi there!

I own a 2005 Frontier Crew Cab LE 4x4.

I rarely drive it in 4x4 mode.

I've been reading the forums and have noticed many people saying their
05-06 frontiers average 19-21 miles a galon.

I'm starting to wonder if there is something wrong with my frontier.

I live in the city and my commute is roughly 50% freeway, 50% city.

I average a little over 13 miles a gallon.

Is this normal? Or might there be something wrong with my truck?
Anyone know the best way to increase gas mileage... as 13 miles a gallon
is killing my checkbook.

Thank you!
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Posted: Aug 13 2006 at 8:19am | IP Logged Quote christ77

Have you ever gone on a trip and calculated your highway mileage?  The upper range of mpg is for highway travel.  So I would expect numbers in the high teens or low 20's for a long trip on the highway.  This would be better guage of your actual mpg.  If you only got like 15-16mpg on the freeway, I would be concerned.


I have a commute that sounds similiar to yours. Rural to suburban - passing thru 3 towns. I made some mod's to my 2001 Frontier and recalculated my mpg. I got 17.1 mpg. But this is in Ohio outside of Dayton. I don't know if your commute has heavier traffic with more stops.  So a comparision would be hard to calculate. 

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Posted: Aug 13 2006 at 12:41pm | IP Logged Quote Genova

Our engine size and vehicle weight is a bit different as well I think? But
regardless... 13 mpg seems a bit low. It makes me sad to see my dollars fly
away. :P On the highway, pure highway, I think I get something along the
lines of 340 miles per tank.... which puts me near 18 mpg.

I wonder if there are mods that would help me increase gas mileage....

Sort of like a cold air intake... I mean do they really help with that? :)
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Posted: Aug 14 2006 at 10:16pm | IP Logged Quote My2006SE

Strange , I've only got 1300 miles and got 355 out of the 3rd tank , 375 out of the 2nd tank . ran both to within 1 gallon left or less hehehe

 

The lower mileage was due to pulling the bassboat about 20 miles roundtrip and I was a little "heavier" on the gas the whole tank , I did take it really easy during the first 1K mikes , never over 4 grand on the tach and always easy takeoffs , who knows , i may keep this one more than a year

Heck , ANYTHING is better than the 10 mpg I was getting on my 2003 Lightning . Minus about 200 hp , the frontier is great at the pump in comparision .

 

I'm hoping after another 2 or 4 k miles , the mileage will increase .  I did notice that with the fast starts and a few wot runs to see what the truck was able to do , that the gas light came on alot sooner than my milder tank before .


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Posted: Sep 29 2006 at 9:24am | IP Logged Quote Fronteeer

I have an '05 Frontier Crew Cab 4x4, and on a recent pure highway trip (filling up at a truck stop on the freeway and driving on the freeway only, until I needed gas again), I had 585 km on the trip and had used 73 litres.  That's 12.586 litres/100 km, or 22.453 miles per gallon (87 octane regular unleaded fuel).  For business purposes, I write my mileage down on each gas receipt, so I had a look at some from the past year.  I commute mostly on the highway, and my average trip reading when I fill up is about 520 km, requiring about 67 litres to refill the tank. That works out to 12.884 litres/100 km, or 21.933 miles per gallon.  Now, during the winter in eastern Ontario, where the temperatures average in the -20 celsius range (-4 fahrenheit), I need about the same amount to fill up after going around 480 km.  That's 13.958 litres/100 km, or 20.247 miles per gallon.  Not much difference between pure highway and part highway, or summer temperatures vs. winter.  The truck is stock--no aftermarket intake or exhaust parts. I usually accelerate normally to quickly, but sometimes very quickly on backroads (hey, it's a fun, powerful truck!), and I do pass slower vehicles on the highway.  The worst fuel economy I've ever had while driving mostly on urban and suburban streets is 17-18 mpg.  When the truck was new, it did about 15 mpg but once broken in the mileage got a lot better.  Here's a tip: if you want to calculate your fuel economy with reasonable accuracy, fill the top portion of the tank slowly to reduce waves and bubbling in the fuel, and stop pumping when the fuel nozzle clicks off.

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Posted: Sep 30 2006 at 2:06pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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Boosting Fuel Mileage

... It takes X amount of power to move gasoline engine vehicles from point to point. The engine converts gasoline to heat as the power source. Much more than fifty percent of the heat is wasted unused and is dissipated though the radiator and exhaust system. Large cubic displacement engines normally consume more fuel than smaller engines but this is not a ‘hard’ fact..

... Here is a list of a few of the mechanical things that can effect fuel mileage.

Cam and ignition timing, cam lift, duration and valve size. Leaky fuel delivery systems with vented vapor losses, restricted air induction systems i.e. dirty filters. Intake air can also be too hot or cold. Restricted exhaust scavenging systems. Operating temperatures of fuel and engine. Carburetors with bad power valves, accelerator pumps and fouled choke systems. Carbon fouled injectors, sparkplugs, and piston rings. Type of transmission, automatics without lock-up converters and over-drives, gear ratios. The type of tires, tire size, the tire pressures and the wheel alignment. Example; Just think, is it possible that larger wider tires require less ‘toe in’ that could reduce drag and get better fuel mileage? But the larger wider tires cause increased air flow resistance. The vehicle speed, the load, the wind speed and direction. The list can continue on including the type and additive mix of the gasoline. Gasoline blends are changed continually by local area, altitude and season. These are changes in the volatility of the gasoline. Winter Gasoline will evaporate much faster in the summer temperatures and less octane is required at high altitudes.

The driver knowledge and ability is the big factor for achieving the best fuel mileage if the vehicle is in proper condition.

Make sure the odometer in the vehicle is showing correct mileage. Increasing the diameter of the tires will reduce the amount of miles shown on the odometer. Keep a record of all fuel amounts, the mileage and the Miles Per Gallon between each gas-up. The record can be helpful in spotting problems with the engine when there is a sudden drop in mileage.

MPG means miles per gallon NOT miles per 'tank full' 

An example of the simple formula is 200 miles divided by 10 gallons = 20 MPG

Full tank amounts will vary due to air trapped in the tank but the MPG will average out in the long run.

Here are a few thoughts about saving fuel.

First thing a driver will notice when they start to conserve fuel is it will agitate other drivers around his vehicle. Please be considerate of other drivers who have no concept of your economy driving. The other drivers want to race to the next stoplight and remember, If they don’t get there quick enough they won’t get to stop! When the timing of stop lights is known then speedind up to make a green light can save a little. 1. Think about driving as an art while doing so. Stop rubber-necking, turn off the music, turn off the cell and drive.

2. Install a dash-mounted vacuum gauge and use it. As the fuel mileage drops the vacuum needle drops. Try to prevent the needle from dropping below five inches. Readings will change with altitude changes.

3. Drive as if you had a fresh egg taped on the accelerator AND brake pedals.

4. Apply accelerator and brake petals smoothly.

5. Reduce speed as much and as soon as possible. Speeds above 50 MPH eat into the pocketbook!

6. Scan far ahead of your vehicle for traffic control signals and things that will allow you to ‘get off the gas’ sooner so you don’t have to ‘hit’ the brakes as hard – later. The over use of brakes means fuel has been wasted.

7. Drive as if your afraid your brakes are in poor condition and you are trying to save them.

8. Purchase your fuel in the morning when it’s cool and keep the tank full.

9. Air you tires up when they are cold and on the plus side of the recommended pressure and check them often especially on cold days. switching to nitrogen in the tires might help fuel mileage. Soft tires eat fuel!

10. Small amounts of high quality low ash synthetic Out Board 2cycle oil in the fuel (less than ¼ Oz per gallon) will clean and lubricate and reduce friction. The low ash oil will help the following items for better fuel mileage and life; electric gyrator fuel pumps, carburetor/injector parts, spark plugs, valve stems, compression rings and EGR systems. One fouled spark plug can drop fuel consumption by 10 percent. One sticky fuel injector can drop fuel mileage by up to one third.

11. Air dams can enhance cooling and reduce aerodynamic drag. Reduce the amount of air getting under the truck because the underside of vehicles create much air turbulence and drag at highway speeds. Bug shields, sun visors, wind deflectors, large roof top racks and large outside mirrors will reduce fuel mileage. Small camper shells or bed covers on pick-ups seem to aid fuel mileage.

12. The effect of heavy loads is detrimental to fuel mileage and brake life.

13. Modifying a vehicle with lifts and large wide tires is detrimental to fuel mileage and brake life.

14. Cruise control may save fuel in ‘flatlands’ but may not be economical in hilly country.

15. In hilly country do not allow the down hill run to cause engine ‘braking’ i.e. slowing down the vehicle unnecessarily. Run your fastest speed at the bottom of a hill and the slowest at the top. ... Only use engine braking when the vehicle is going to gain excessive and unsafe speed that would have required a fair amount of regular brakes. Excessive downhill braking can cause many heat related problems. Among these are warped rotors, brake fade, boiling brake fluid, wearing out pads, over heating seals, bearings and lubricants.

... Down hill engine braking and downshifting for increased engine braking is not going to consume very much fuel because the throttle will be closed. Long downhill runs of five or more percent grades are a good time for downshift engine braking. Two miles of seven-percent grades with curves should be mandatory.

So in hilly country it's a case of the having to use more throttle to regain the speed you lost by allowing short periods of unnecessary engine braking.

16. Allow the engine to warm up and/or drive gently till it does. Cold engines can get poor fuel mileage.

17. Put the transmission in neutral or stop the engine when long waits in traffic are encountered I.e. train crossings and long red traffic lights.

18. Reduce the Air Conditioning and the electrical demands on the alternator. Alternators draw much horsepower and extra fuel so fancy lights and sound systems burn extra gasoline and bother other peoples eyes and ears.

19. Short shifting. If the automatic transmission is equipped with overdrive and/or lock-up torque converter learn at what speeds it changes gears/locks. Often one can get the transmission into overdrive and lock the converter sooner by backing off the accelerator pedal a little at the right time.

20. The use of WOT (Wide Open Throttle) to gain speed can wast fuel.

21. Consolidate your trips. Do more errands per trip and reduce the number of trips. This doesn't increase mileage but can cut the use of fuel.

22. Gasoline bends vary widely, station to station and area to area. Ethanol blends (like 10%) do not get the power or fuel mileage that 'real' gasoline or MBTE blends of fuel get.

23. Hey!.. wake-up!!  We are sorry we put you to sleep… do you have any other ideas?

Have a good one  and  CUL.. Don S.. aka lakota

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Posted: Oct 13 2006 at 7:31pm | IP Logged Quote 2003 sc

does your a/c compressor run when defrost is on?

do you drive with the defrost on?

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Posted: Oct 21 2006 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote ptlm15125

I have a 2005 Frontier KC Nismo 4X4,  live in Atlantic City area of NJ and I only average 13.5 MPG and that is being nice. I may get 16-17 on the highway with the wind behind me. My wifes 04 4Runner Sport, full time 4X4 with V-8 gets 20 MPG with me driving around town.

Explain that one! The open bed cannot be that much drag!
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Posted: Oct 26 2011 at 10:04pm | IP Logged Quote cmetheral

I recently bought a 2005 Frontier Crew Cab LE 4x4.  When I first bought the truck a few months ago, I was getting about 18 mpg.  Recently, the mileage dropped to about 12 mpg and the service engine light came on.  I took the truck into the dealership and their explanation of the service engine light was P1448 which means the valve on the gas tank isn't closing.  They told me this shouldn't effect performance of the truck.  But it happened right around the same time my mileage dropped.  They also want to charge about $370 to replace this valve.

Any ideas?
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Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 3:15pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

ptlm15125 wrote:
I have a 2005 Frontier KC Nismo 4X4,  live in Atlantic City area of NJ and I only average 13.5 MPG and that is being nice. I may get 16-17 on the highway with the wind behind me. My wifes 04 4Runner Sport, full time 4X4 with V-8 gets 20 MPG with me driving around town.

Explain that one! The open bed cannot be that much drag!

..

That is really a fantastic Toyota!!!

We have a low milage '08 Toyota I-4 Camry and that's about all we get in town... Please tell us how you do it! A friend also wants to know because his  2 wheel drive V-6 Four Runner (or V-6 Tacoma) doesn't do near that good.

We log in every drop of gasoline and the mileage at each fill-up and calulate the fuel mileage on all our cars and trucks.

When was the last time you installed a new clean per-oiled Nissan air filler in your Frontier? The MAFS might need cleaning to get better mileage.

BTW .. Our Camry did get 28.4 mpg On a highway trip without the A/C on!

Have a good one.. Don S..



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