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eregnans Newbie
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Here are a few pics of my D40 Navara (southern hemisphere fronty!!) out in the real world of the Australian outback. Truck is 2 months old, on its first trip, 9000Km of real bush tracks, sand dunes and corrugated gravel. 2.5 litre oilburner performed well, however 5 speed auto not well matched to low torque range of the oilburner. Standard front suspension mediocre, rear suspension very ordinary - all currently being modified. Next trip planned is up to the
top of Cape York in northern Australia.
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Thats pretty cool, have you guys got 3.0ltr Diesel Turbo?
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eregnans Newbie
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The 3.0 litre TD is available in Australia in the older Navara D22 and
the Patrol. The D40 has available a V6 petrol, and the 2.5 litre TD
that I have. The 2.5 litre TD has about 10% more power, and about 25%
more torque, than the older 3.0 litre TD. Its a great little donk.
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dang bro nice truck im diggin it, they need to bring the deisel over to the us
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I don't think it will be too much longer before we see it. Jeep has just put a diesel in, give it a model year or two, and the rest will follow.
Speed up the process by emailing Nissan NA
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thats pretty cool seeing the aussies version of our fronty---- are the specs and performance about the same as the US specs; our 4.0l v6? just curious as i really no nothing about the navara... outside it looks nearly identical in body and facia appearance. cool pics bro..
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eregnans Newbie
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As far as I am aware the Navara and Frontier are much the same animal -
my Navara was built in Spain, don't know where the Frontier is built.
Same thing also called a Navara in the UK.
Here we have
- Petrol / gasoline is a 4.0 litre V6, 198 kW, 385 Nm @ 4000 RPM
- Diesel is a 2.5 litre 4 in line intercooled turbo, 128 kW, 403 Nm @ 2000 RPM, $2000 extra
- 6 speed manual tranny is standard
- 5 speed auto optional, $2000 extra
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eregnans wrote:
As far as I am aware the Navara and Frontier are much the same animal - my Navara was built in Spain, don't know where the Frontier is built. Same thing also called a Navara in the UK. |
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You are correct, the Navara and Frontier are the SAME truck. EXCEPT, you are given the diesel option, and your's is built in spain. The Frontier is built in the U.S.A. at a plant in Tennessee. You also get some body component options that we don't, such as your grill.
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I am also a D40 owner in australia.Same colour as yours but 6 speed manual.Recently toured into queensalnd with caravan behind and dinghy on top and found rear suspension totally inadequate with constant heavy bottoming out. Total load including driver and passenger and towball downweight was about 650 kg . Subsequently loaded up to rated weight of 820 kg at which point spring clearance from rubber stop about 1cm and slightest bump even on bitumen caused hard bottoming out. Nissan advised that vehicle was performing to specifications and unwilling to do anything about it. Am interested in what you are doing to suspension to upgrade it. I have looked at number of options and will probably decide on rear leaf, front coil and full shock replacement when kits come out in about 6 weeks with maybe also addition of polyair bags. This will give me a 50mm lift which I believe that the vehicle needs for any offroad work. The modern 4WD is definately not made off the shelf for offroad work more for the wives picking up kids from school never off the bitumen or with a load.
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Yep rogerf, everything you say is spot on. My payload across the Anne
Beadell and up the Canning was about 650 Kg, and by the time I'd gotten
home I had dented in the plates on the underside of the chassis rails
that the rubber stops bang into!!
Nissan will not address the problem, because as you say, they say
everything is to spec. Reality is that all current model 4WDs are built
with a very soft ride to suit the suburban school run market, and to
suit yuppie types who drive around on their rockeries at weekends, and
so anyone wanting to take any current 4WD off road these days has to
address suspension inadequacies. Don't know what that says for dual
cabs etc being offered as tradies vehicles. For myself, I deliberately
made no changes before my first trip outback because I wanted to know
how unsuitable the suspension was and what needed most attention.
A couple of weeks ago a Melbourne firm was all set to fit me up with
King springs (30mm lift) and Koni shocks in front, and polyair bags and
Koni shocks in back. However they pulled back a day before surgery,
apparently they had like fitted a new Pathy and something went wrong
while the guy was over Ceduna way!!!
ARB, TJM and others are developing lift kits and better shock kits. I
am getting other opinions - now not happy with the polyair proposal
because it still means I have a weak leaf spring arrangement. I'm going
to investigate a stiffer spring. When my D40 is sitting on level
ground, with only the canopy fitted and nothing in the tub, the rear
springs are already slightly inverted.
Ground clearance is of course the other issue - the D40 is low low low,
despite the specifications showing that it has more clearance than a
Patrol. To go offroad the D40 needs much more ground clearance. Maximum
lift in front is approx 30-32mm because of independent suspension (I
question your 50mm lift, too much angle on CV joints will seriously
reduce CV joint life since the front transmission is constantly
rotating, even when not in 4WD). Back can be lifted higher, but not
much point. I also got some extra lift by fitting 265/75/16 tyres,
clearance is approx 40mm in the back of front wheel arch at half lock -
not great but enough. Spoke to a guy in UK with a D40 who has lifted
his 100mm all round, he has put in free-wheeling front hubs to overcome
constant rotation of front transmission. For me, that's going too far.
One positive for the underside of the D40 is that it is very tidy, with
all of the transmission components tucked up above the underside of the
chassis rails. I'm getting a skid plate fitted from the underside of
the bullbar at front, right back to the middle chassis cross member.
Then I'll be like a boat underneath, and slide over anything a bit high
without damaging transmission or sump !! I've already dinged my sump in
a fair bit hitting termite mounds hidden by spinafex grass in the
centre of the track!!
One other issue - the underside of the D40 is a great collector of
spinafex, and don't be surprised if you read soon that someone has
burned one to the ground somewhere in the outback. I had trouble
with spinafex packing tightlyaround the exhaust pipe where it crosses
to the left hand side under the vehicle, just behind the motor. The
diesel exhaust does not run as hot as a petrol exhaust, however I still
managed to seriously scorch some tightly packed spinafex. Mandatory to
clean spinafex out every hour or so while in this type of country.
Hoping that my proposed boat-like underbody will go some way towards
solving this problem too.
Get these few issues sorted, and you and I will have a great little truck to go exploring the outback.
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