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cableguy Newbie
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Posted: Oct 22 2010 at 8:09pm | IP Logged
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I haven't found a 'superchip' that is made for '04 Frontier crewcab 3.3L V6. I only see these performance chips that you add after the IAT sensor; http://www.gfchips.com/nissanfrontier.aspx Anyone know if these claims are valid, or if this works well and causes no issues with my type of Frontier?
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frontierguy Senior Member
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Posted: Oct 23 2010 at 7:55pm | IP Logged
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I may be wrong, but they are a resister that changes the
parameter from normal. The IAT sensor has little effect on
the system, the MAFS or cyl head temp sensor are the more
common sources of adding resisters. Back in the "old" 260-
280Z days, we would install a resister in line to the cyl
head temp sensor, made them run much better.
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cableguy Newbie
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yeah, after some more research and info from other frontier sites, seems these chips are useless for real performance gains and a waste of money. need to get upRev or some other type of superchip tuner to get real effects, unfortunately they dont make those for the '04 Frontiers as far as I've looked.
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cableguy wrote:
yeah, after some more research and info from other frontier sites, seems these chips are useless for real performance gains and a waste of money. need to get upRev or some other type of superchip tuner to get real effects, unfortunately they dont make those for the '04 Frontiers as far as I've looked.
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Indeed. Advertising has been rampant on them chips. I would like to share an article I found on ebay:
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The Truth about Performance Module and Chip
There are a lot of auctions for performance chips and parts that promise
to increase your car's performance by altering the air-fuel ratio,
among other things. There is a distinct divide between devices costing
less than $20, and some that cost well over $200. What are they, and do
they really work?
First off, as a disclaimer: The example I
bought was called the "G-Box", and was a small black plastic box with
two wires coming out of it. It cost me about $20 after shipping. Most of
these install between the air temperature sensor on the intake manifold
or air duct. When I installed my G-Box, I noticed two things: The
throttle response became "soggy" and I smelled the odor of unburnt fuel
out the exhaust. I discovered why when I researched more about the
G-Box.
It was simply a resistor inside a fancy package. It works
like this: The air temperature sensor changes its resistance based on
how warm or cold the air is inside the intake plenum. Warmer air
decreases the resistance of the sensor, and the computer reads this
signal to adjust the air-fuel ratio. Colder air is denser and therefore
requires more fuel to burn properly. The G-Box's resistor made the
computer read a false signal -- it tricks the computer into thinking
that the air is colder than it actually is, and therefore requires more
fuel. Thus, the computer injects more fuel than it normally would.
In
some vehicles, this may increase horsepower. In mine, a 1989 Honda CRX
Si, it did the opposite. In most cases, it may increase power slightly,
but at the expense of failing emissions and degraded fuel economy. At
worst, it will cause your throttle body to become dirty, soil valves and
spark plugs, and possibly damage exhaust components.
The vast
majority of these "Performance Chips" that look suspiciously like a
plastic box with a paper label glued onto it are simply resistors that
connect to your air temperature sensor. Generally, anything that splices
into your air temperature sensor should be a red flag, because most
operate in a similar manner.
However, the performance chips and
devices that cost significantly more, often over $200, are usually
genuine silicon that actually alter the air-fuel curve inside the car's
computer. Some of these are easy to use, plugging into an expansion port
on the computer or directly connecting through the car's OBDII port,
while others are more difficult and require removing the computer and
installing a chip. Some even require soldering, but it varies. These
actual chips usually do yield positive results, and should not be
condemned like the cheaper resistor-type devices.
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