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Posted: Jun 10 2009 at 8:01am | IP Logged Quote dannyg

Most of the people started driving cars/trucks from the American name plates. Now me a mopar loving freak I`m sick hugging the big white bowl sick after a nite of jack and coke sick. With this whole uaw dodge must shut down its dealers to please f&@*t a hunk of crap car company as they build crummy cars that leave Detroit. Who in the hell helped them on this deal O wait a sec are prez and the uaw. If the goverment keeps crashing car company like dodge and the whole GM deal stinks to those american name plates we started driving are goona be like dinosoars exstinked

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Posted: Jun 10 2009 at 10:57am | IP Logged Quote davidjbrady


I agree, the gov't does not belong running an auto company. GM/Mopar were warned for years to make dependable cars, but they focused too heavily on full size Trucks and SUV's.
I wonder what would happen if GM and Mopar would offer warranties like Kia (10 years 100,000K bumper to bumper)standard warranty, not optional? I own a Kia only because of this and after 6 years, still runs like a champ.


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Posted: Jun 10 2009 at 2:51pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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Friends:

... For the last few months these car companies really have been operated by a panel of  Obama appointees. None (zero) of these people have any auto-industrial-production experience! Guess what! They are all Wall Streeters  ! They say since Honda sells twice the number of cars with half the number of dealers than Mopar has that it proves Mopar has way too many dealers. Friends, Honda sells twice the numbers of cars because their reputation of dependability/quality is three times better! The same goes for Toyota.

... I believe when the history is written 30 years from now the BHO/Plosie group will not be looked at as being very intelligent. Yup, we can bail out the greedy Wall Streeters but bankrupt the American Auto industry.

  

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In the future all individuals will have to buy 75 cent carbon credits every week. These carbon credits will be for sale in the Commodities Futures Market and speculators will be driving the price up to $4.00 per credit!!!

 



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Posted: Jun 16 2009 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

I honestly say let them die.  The best thing that happened so far was the Gov't forced GM's president to step down.  Remember this is the man that said "Our line of Large SUV and Trucks will save us."  Then took for 2 years only ran a diesel that everyone would want but didn't put into their private sector trucks because "no one will pay an extra $1500 on top of the $6000 for a diesel option"  The guy had no sense what so ever. 

Their current predicament is the result of greed.  The market flooding of vehicles and UAW wanting more money. 

GM needed to trim the fat a long time ago, and even now with trimming, they're still trimming in the wrong way.  "We'll keep Chevy, GMC, and Cadi."  WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHEVY, GMC, and PONTIAC.  NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

You can save money by dropping the badge and small exterior changes and offereing another package option or 2 to a chevy.  Oh and look, you only have to pay for one style of badge.  Hell, the only difference between my wife's 08 cobalt and a Pontiac G5 is the grill. 

Heaven forbide they offer a Chevy 2500 HD with a Denali package, or quadrasteer.  Oh god no. 

The best part, let's just drop a line that created it's own little world in the market and people loved it... but then f**k it up with integrating it with the rest of our company, like we said we wouldn't.  I think if Penske Motors goes right back to the core of what Saturn was about, they will take the market back by storm. 

Now that I'm done picking on GM, time for Chrysler.  Besides the obvious union problem, they had one fault.  QUIT TRYING PUT TOP LUXURY INTO ALL YOUR LINES!!!!!  How do you think Toyota, Nissan, and Honda do it so well?  Simple, a regular line, and a luxury line.  This one keeps it simple, affordable, and somewhat luxury, the other decks it out for those who can afford it.

It's so simple, Dodge makes the trucks, entry lvl cars and vans.  Simple market they had cornered.  Jeep makes the awesome entry and semi lvl SUVs.  Chrysler carries their luxury editions.  Crossfire, etc.  Jeep did not need the f**king commander at all.  It's so simple, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee, Liberty, and Patriot.  Offroad, semi luxury, entry lvl, and crossover.

Ford... omg ford.  GET REALISTIC.  I'm not going to pay $57,000 for a F150.  I can get a totally loaded Titan or Tundra for $48,000 if I wanted it.  They sure can offer $10,000 rebates, because that's how much they inflated their prices.  Granted though, their body styling has improved a lot.  Now if they would quit their half model year changes for no reason but to piss off mechanics.  Oh, and you don't need 3 versions of a 4.6L V8.  You got a 2 valve, that's a Mustang GT, 3 Valve, that's F150, a 4 valve, you got a cobra.  COME ON!!!!!  drop that poor of a excuse 2 valve and drop in that 3 valve.  Look, 2 heads needing purchased instead of 3 different. 

ALL 3, tell the UAW to suck it up and take a realistic paycheck.  They don't like it, tell them to sell their $300,000+ house and buy something a little less.  I'm seem to be just fine with a $110,000 house in a $225,000 avg housing market.



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Posted: Jun 17 2009 at 11:05am | IP Logged Quote dannyg

kcidmill I wish you wore in D.C you summed it up perfectly. The goverment could of helped everyone out if they did this. Move south down around Texas,FL,SC about 50-80 miles from the coast. You could ship them by boat or truck or train. Leave the UAW behind in Michagn. This could of droped the unemploment rate also leaving the UAW behind in Mich the car companies can get away from an insane 35-40 buck an hour to put fenders on a car. I`m for a fair wage but the car companies can move south and get someone happy to do it for 12-15 an hour for entry level work. Give eneryone a 90 day break in time a yearly review this can work. It looks like with all this stimulus and bailout money that has not gotten in the right hands Looks like are prez is hiding money to out spend anyone who runs against him in 4 years

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Posted: Jun 17 2009 at 2:16pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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It's pretty hard for the union to vote to decrease their pay when the top brass making millions are idiots. Plus the getto area of Michian has an unreal high cost of living. 

WTF... do the union guys think they should have at least some of the crumbs from the pie in the sky that the upper management gets? 

The only thing that will make this country great again is to clean out ALL the scum in Wastington D.C. and create many more Blue Collar manufacturing jobs

China has already won the war... they will own us when BHO gets through. On the bright side, they won't be nuking us 'cause they'll be owning us.

BTW... There will be no COLAs this year Food and Fuel aren't in the figures thanks to the millionairs in Wastington D.C.. 

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Posted: Jul 04 2009 at 7:40am | IP Logged Quote rollon

GM,Ford,Toyota,Nissan and others,make autos and trucks that are not sold in this country ! Gas,disel motors ! Small crew cab trucks ! Mexico , South America other countries ! The $$$ are sold here !!

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Posted: Jul 26 2009 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

No... the  $$$$$$$ is sold in places like UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain.  With the coolest stuff being in Japan and Australia.  Where do you think the design for GTO came from?

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Posted: Jul 26 2009 at 11:12am | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

dannyg wrote:
kcidmill I wish you wore in D.C 

3 things keep me from it.

1.) I'm not afraid to speak my mind. 
2.) I have too much common sense
3.) Stupidity pisses me off. (wouldn't be a good thing to be decking fellow politicians, though it would make for a more interesting TV session)



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Posted: Jul 26 2009 at 2:31pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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The majority of the representatives of the people in Wastington D.C. are not stupid!... Cunning, conniving, cheaters, tax evaders, (just look at BHO’s cabinet members) and their excepting bribes for laws, so... crooks would better describe these people!   

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