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Posted: Aug 31 2007 at 10:22pm | IP Logged Quote subc

So, after thinking about this long and deep, I decided to go ahead and try and get a basic 2WD XE 5 speed manual frontier.

The main question remains.. how much money one has to make in order to afford this kind of truck? (financed of course).

I have not investigated how much the insurance will cost, or what the maintenance will be like on a new truck, but I am most concerned with being able to pay for this.

What would you say is the average salary I should be making to be able to buy this truck? (Im single btw... and don't have a bunch of infants all over the country either :P )

Oh yes, Hi guys! I am new to the forum and joined because I am seriously considering buying a frontier (already called 3 dealers to see the prices they will give me... you know, so I can say "well this other guy told me less money" and then call the other and say the same thing).
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Posted: Aug 31 2007 at 10:59pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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Welcome to the group!...

I never was single... Married at 17. We always figured the total transportation cost should not exceed 25% of the brought home income but a single guy it could be more. And never borrow on anything other than a house or car.

Interest is the high price you pay for being impatient.

The main thing is job security!!!!!

Enjoy the ride! And

Have a good one while you can still laugh about it.. Don S..

It would be nice if our members would add their vehicle information to their signature (similar to mine) plus add their City and State . A member in the same town might be willing to drop by and help you with a problem.



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Posted: Aug 31 2007 at 11:12pm | IP Logged Quote subc

altough I started @ a new company some 4 months ago, everything is going superb and the company has been there for like.. ever.

I would like to think I get paid fairly well, but given the fact that I have never financed a new car, I am a little worried and afraid at the same time (2 cars that i bought before were used and old, and cheap :P and just finished paying a financed motorcycle.. one reason I want a truck).

In short, I guess i'm afraid (like we all are) of bills
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Posted: Sep 01 2007 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote Frontyfan

i think that lakota has a good reference point there, but as i am a single guy too w/ no kids then it could also be more for me too, one thing to consider as well, i believe kcidmil has mentioned in the past has been, as it gets toward the end of the calendar year, dealers will be looking to move inventory rather than pay taxes on them for having them sit on the lot. So if you can hold out, it might be best to just keep researching for a bit, also, what I did that might be helpful, is finance through an outside source, say like a credit union if you belong to one, i got by far the best rate (tho, i bought a used frontier). I figured out how much i could afford per month, and that gave me a working price for a vehicle, they basically cut you a cashier's check (oh and by the way, don't tell the dealer you have the check with you, lol) and you can be a bit more aggressive about getting the price you want. also check out local nissan dealers websites, see if they are having national sales events or keep an eye out for commercials promoting such events. the XE is only offered with the 4 cylinder engine now isn't it? (someone correct me if i'm wrong) not that it's a bad motor, nissan's 4 cylinder has been known to be a quality engine. good luck and welcome to the forum!!!

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Posted: Sep 01 2007 at 10:18am | IP Logged Quote subc

that's great advice from both lakota dn Frontyfan.

I don't even know if I am enrolled in a credit union at work, lol but financing with an outside source is really what I want to do.

Now here is another part of the problem guys, not having that cashiers check in hand, from what angle do I 'attack' the dealeships in order to get a better price on a financed truck?

So far what I have been doing is call 3 dealers and request the same thing and tell them I am in no hurry. All of them didn't have the color/options I wanted, so is a good thing.
What I hope to do is have them lower the price against each other (or that is the plan at least), but I don't even know what's the lowest of the lowest a dealer can go... MSRP?
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Posted: Sep 01 2007 at 10:47am | IP Logged Quote tablesaw

It will depend on what you have for a down payment, length of the loan, interest rates, etc. That's such an open question it's impossible to answer. Figure out your monthly budget, decide on what you can spend for vehicle, insurance, maintenance and operating expenses, and see what you can work out with your dealer. Don't forget taxes and tags, either.

 When I bought my last truck, I was adamant about not going over $300 per month on the truck itself, and we WERE able to work out a deal with them. One payment left on it, and I didn't have to sweat the payments, either, since I stuck to my budget like a cocklebur on a hounddog. I suggest something similar, get a figure and stick with it.



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Posted: Sep 01 2007 at 11:33am | IP Logged Quote subc

yeah, I was actually thinking about that amount per month. When I financed my bike it was half that amount, but most months I would pay twice or 3 times over that just because I didn't had a gf to spend the money on

And yes, i will be giving a 2500 downpayment.. and the dealers started calling already!!! come on, is Caturday and I am barely awake!
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Posted: Sep 03 2007 at 5:36pm | IP Logged Quote subc

so I went to a stealership and took the XE for a test drive... I loved the color, the interior space, the quiet engine (but hey, is new... what else is to expect), the not so bumpy ride, etc.

However, there was simply no power on this car
A quick take off from a stop or trying to pass another car was something the XE (4 cylinder, 5-speed manual) was struggling to do.

Now I've been driving manual transmission cars for a long long time, but I am sure a VW beettle has more power than this, lol.

In any case, it felt sluggish, comfy, and I noticed that the faster I was going, the less responsive the steering was.. safety feature?

Of course the dealer and manager tried to sell it to me on the spot, yada yada.. we know how it is. But now that I got to 'feel it' I am not so sure anymore. lol
I still like it a lot, but I wonder how would the car respond with a heavy load on the back.
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Posted: Oct 05 2007 at 7:41am | IP Logged Quote JHolovacs

if you're imagining pulling a heavy load, the 4-banger probably isn't appropriate, regardless of its econonmy.  Personally I've never understood the thought process behind putting a 4-cylinder engine in any sort of truck.

Perhaps you should look at the V6 option for the XE?  I can't imagine the cost difference would be too outrageous, but there are "hidden" costs:

fuel money

insurance money

(in some states) registration costs more with a bigger engine.

My advice, figure out what you could comfortable pay every month, estimate the number of miles you drive every month, and get a generic quote for insurance from a few different places... you can do quite a few right online.  Then:

Add 30% to your estimated miles and divide that by your city MPG.

Multiply THAT number by $3.00 (assuming gas will stay at $3.00 a gallon for a while).  This will be your base monthly fuel cost.

Assuming that you will bring your car in to the dealer or a jiffy-lube clone every three months, figure about $15 a month in general maintenance fees.

add your cheapest insurance quote

subtract that sum from the amount you can comfortably spend every month.

go online, and find a loan calculator, and plug the numbers for the vehicle you're looking for into it.  I don't know what your credit rating is, but I thing the average is around 7.0% at this point.  If you don't know the state of your credit, you should find out (i think freecreditreport.com will hook you up) but leave yourself some wiggle room with 9%.  factor in your down payment, and this will give you a rough cost of the vehicle loan.

using MSRP for the calculation is a good idea, but don't pay MSRP.  you have to figure your taxes, title processing, and registration fees will also be financed.

Also keep in mind that that "underbody" stuff is basically selling air, according to several people I know that worked in the industry.  The truck comes from the factory with a 5 year corrosion warrantee.

One more thing... I recommend holding off on buying the extended warrantee until you're sure you're going to keep your vehicle for a while.  You can add it on any time within the next 3 years, and you might get a better rate for fininacing at that point.

Avoid the dealer's specials with the low interest rate.  You lose a lot of incentive power, and the only way you save money on those things is if you actually keep the vehicle for the duration of the loan, which a lot of people never do.  I know when my vehicle gets to be about 4-5 years old, I'm looking for an upgrade.

Anyway, that's my advice for buying a fronty.  :)



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Posted: Oct 05 2007 at 4:04pm | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

www.bankrate.com has great calculators for loans.  You can play around with them and even have a deal for "how much can I afford?"

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