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Posted: Apr 14 2008 at 2:39pm \| IP Logged

Fronteeer;

Well I can’t blame you for being PO’ed! Over 10% of all brands of vehicles have major problems according to Consumer Reports… I am a reporting member.

... The way that automatic hubs function I tend to believe that may be the cause of problems with ‘shift on the fly’. I can’t figure out how they disengage properly (for sure) at highway speeds. I use mine a lot but always stop and backup to disengage the hubs. And I NEVER drive on high (normal) traction surfaces like wet concrete or asphalt in four wheel drive.

... The people that write manuals have to write what ever some desk jock tells them to. Now if you want the real deal with real ice and snow traction buy an old ’76 – ’77 Wagoneer with the full time BW-1339 transfer case… I did ‘cause I heard they had the best traction in slop ever made.

Have a good one while you can still laugh about it.. Don S..

Laws such as the use of corn ethanol are driving up the cost of living (have you been to the grocery store lately) without driving up wages. This equates to a lower standard of living thanks to Agro-lobbyists and corrupt and/or ill-informed lawmakers.

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Posted: Apr 14 2008 at 3:12pm \| IP Logged

Fronteer,

You are out in left field. Basing your opinion on one experience is quite frankly ignorant. As one of the previous posters said, every manufacturer has problems.

If you want to shift ont he fly, be my guest, just don't say I didn't warn you. It has NOTHING to do with Nissan... it is basically the same for every true 4wd (meaning not AWD) system.

As far as the 4x4 being for show, that is simply not true. I use my 4x4 all the time without any problems. Why? B/c I am responsible about it. The Frontier is one of the most (if not the most) offroad capable trucks in the compact market.

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Posted: Apr 24 2008 at 3:23pm \| IP Logged

So you're driving along on dry pavement and suddenly come to a shady section of road that's covered in snow and goes on for quite a bit. You're cruising along at around 60. You pull over and STOP... shift into 4WD... and then get back on the road and drive. When you get back in the sun where the road is dry you STOP AGAIN... shift into 2WD... ***%@#$^#@$ BACK UP***... then put 'er in drive and get back on the road, only to go through the whole thing again a few miles later.

NO PROBLEM, that's no inconvenience whatsoever. Why not get out of the truck, do three laps around it... heck, why not do some irish stepdancing while I'm at it, and maybe perform a little magic show, it's not like I have anywhere to be or anything! :-)

I have to say this, though: What a classy bunch you guys are! Not one person on this board has ever verbally torn me a new a**hole for crapping on Nissan, and whoever said it's because I bought an '05 when they first came out is probably right. What Lakota said about the owner's manual being thrown together by non-technical types is probably right, too. And what JeffKyleMc said about bashing Nissans on a Nissan board is right, too.

I'm going to start a differential fund and put money into it every month to pay for my next one. Since following the manual doesn't seem to make much of a difference, and since I refuse on principal to be the knob reversing on the shoulder while wasting time following the ridiculous regiment I've described above, from now on I'll shift into and out of 4WD at 90MPH or while pulling a brake stand with the back wheels spinning. Whackity-whackity-whack, YEAH BABY, chisel those gears down so they shift smoother at 90MPH! I'll change the front differential every second oil change. None of this, "Oh, sorry honey, I have to BACK UP to disengage my 'half-shaft' or whatever the f***." I'll be interviewed by Nissan for ordering front differentials by the six-pack, and I'll burn one right in front of them so they see how I do it, full on the gas while pulling donuts in the parking lot, yelling, "IS THIS HOW THE MANUAL SAYS TO DO IT, MR. HAKAYITO?!!!!"

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Posted: Apr 24 2008 at 5:57pm \| IP Logged

Fronteeer wrote:

So you're driving along on dry pavement and suddenly come to a shady section of road that's covered in snow and goes on for quite a bit. You're cruising along at around 60. You pull over and STOP... shift into 4WD... and then get back on the road and drive. When you get back in the sun where the road is dry you STOP AGAIN... shift into 2WD...

Fronteeer;

Thanks for hanging with us poor Frontier guys.

I have driven in these conditions. First, All-Wheel and 4WD is used to aid traction when trying to gain speed and momentum where wheel slip is encountered. I must ask... why are you wanting to gain speed on these dangerous surfaces. If the vehicle is stopped and you need traction to move 4DW is needed.

... If you are at speed and suddenly encounter ice you need to neutralize the throttle and slowly reduce speed for safety sake! In the conditions you describe I'd be just as happy in a two wheel drive.

But this doesn't make your problem suck any less. It is possible it was over use or factory flaws were the culprit!

Have a good one.. Don S..

Now the whole world is going to hate America for burning food in our trucks. Can you spell Corn Ethanol?

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Posted: Apr 25 2008 at 8:50am \| IP Logged

I cede to your expertise in the area of driving in snow, Don, seeing as you live in Texas and all.

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Posted: Apr 25 2008 at 11:05am \| IP Logged

hsckris wrote:

You are out in left field. Basing your opinion on one experience is quite frankly ignorant. As one of the previous posters said, every manufacturer has problems.

Mmm-hmm, $4,400 problems. Sure they do. Picky me.

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Posted: Apr 25 2008 at 10:27pm \| IP Logged

Fronteeer wrote:

I cede to your expertise in the area of driving in snow, Don, seeing as you live in Texas and all.

Fronteeer;

Ape-parently you are un familuar with winter time in Amarillo Texas. I have spent much time in Colorado

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SNOW??? whatz zat stuff?

What is really scary is when they get ice in the DFW Metoplex. Every year we get a new crop of drivers that had never seen ice and snow before.

Have a good one.. Don S..

Now the whole world is going to hate America for burning food in our trucks. Can you spell Corn Ethanol?

Now the whole world knows how stupid (or crooked) our law makers are!

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