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Posted: Apr 21 2008 at 6:35am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

A note from the old chemist.  Syntetic oil is of two fundamental types.  One, typified by Castrol, is produced from hydrotreated petroleum.  That is regular dino oil that has been hit with very high pressure chemistry to split the molecules and react out the double bonds.  Double bonds are what causes old oil paint to "dry" or cure and the presence of these is what causes varnish and sludge in engines.

The other type of synthetic uses truly synthetic molecules such as PAO (polyalphaolefins) and/or polyesters, such as are found in jet engine lubes oil.  Mobil 1 and Amsoil are of this type.  These are engineered with particular moecular sizes, no double bonds and require MUCH lower levels of viscosity improvers that are common in regular multi-weight oils.  These will flow better at low temps, are chemically very stable and have very high lubricity.  This allows for slightly bettert gas mileage.

Now, all of that said, modern petroleum-based lubricants are also very good.  If you change your oil at a decent interval, they are fine.  I use synthetic as I change my own and get 5 qts of Mobil 1 at Wal Mart for $22.  I leave it in my Frontier for about 4000 miles (under warranty).  In my wife's 5-year old Saturn, I just do 2 changes/year. 

Remember, even synthetic oils will pick up dirt that gets through the air filter and blow-by chemicals that are produced by the combustion of gasoline.  I just don't like leaving an oil in there for 25,000 miles for the sake of a couple of oil changes.  Just me.  Also, make sure that the oil you use does not have high levels of zinc anti-wear additive as this can really degrade a catalytic converter.  Mobil 1 is safe in this regard, for example, while some others are not.  AT the price of converters, saving on an oil change only to have to replace your converters can be a bad idea.



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Posted: Apr 21 2008 at 1:54pm | IP Logged Quote thedave360

Does Royal Purple have this Zinc additive?

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Posted: Apr 21 2008 at 6:24pm | IP Logged Quote 06SDFronty

I use Mobile 1 and love it!

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Posted: May 25 2008 at 7:57am | IP Logged Quote hotajax

boneyard10 wrote:
Hey guys I was thinking about switching to synthetic oil . What do you think about AMSOIL and what weight should I use?


OK, here's what I did.  (Nissan Service Managers, don't read this).  I switched to Amsoil right away, and changed the oil at recommended intervals along with the filter, and kept records for the dealership, just in case.   When the warranty on the drive train expired, I bought the 25,000 mile filter from Amsoil.  I now have about 17,000 miles on the oil and filter, and she's still running very strong and easy.

I am NOT an Amsoil salesman, but I will say that their products are great.  I use them all over my truck, including the Severe Gear oil for the rear since I tow.  I also use the Amsoil stuff in my boat, and it has never run better (lower unit lube, and the 2-cycle oil).  Stay tuned, here comes some sacrilege Nissan doesn't want you to know:

I use Amsoil Full Synthetic ATF in my Frontier.  If you're still under warranty I would continue to use the Nissanmatic "J" like they say, just to keep yourself clean.  But after the warranty is up, why not?  The Amsoil is cheaper than "J" by four bucks a quart, it runs cooler (especially while towing), gives you 50,000 mile change intervals if you tow, and 100,000 mile change interval if you don't tow.  Don't live in fear of your service manager.  If you're past the warranty, the Amsoil is where it's at.  Nissan corporate guys, I'm not buying any today, I have plenty all over my horse pasture.< ="text/">_popupControl();

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Posted: May 30 2008 at 11:29pm | IP Logged Quote dannyg

OFF topic weres sarr tech been at? I`M goona try redline or royal purple next time. The dealer says that I need to switch to 10/30 oil if full synthiec is this true done it just the last time or can I still use the 5/30.. I do live in florida were its hot to much

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