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Posted: Jan 25 2007 at 7:19pm | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

That's a diesel for you... hence why I'm pissed at Nissan N.A.

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Posted: Jan 26 2007 at 3:43am | IP Logged Quote Frontyfan

not sure how many of y'all read that but i know like myself a few of you at least would definitely be interested in the diesel frontys (maybe even titans) here in the US found this on the web..and again have to take it with a grain of salt cause it's a blog..but take a look at this

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/11/nissan_planning.html

and this......very recent (look at yellow font at bottom of article)

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US diesel sales expected to rise

Fuel economy may drive US market share up from 3%

By Associated Press  |  January 13, 2006

DETROIT -- Europeans prize diesel engines for their fuel efficiency and power, but US buyers have been slow to embrace them because of environmental concerns and bad memories of the belching diesels of the 1980s. Only about 3 percent of the vehicles sold in the United States last year had diesel engines, compared to 50 percent of the vehicles in Europe.

But automakers are betting that will change now that diesel is getting cleaner, gas prices are rising, and consumers are paying more attention to fuel economy. Diesels are 30 percent more efficient than gas engines, and unlike gas-electric hybrids, which get better fuel economy in city driving, diesels are equally efficient on the highway.

''This really, I think, is a whole new direction this market can take," DaimlerChrysler AG chairman and chief executive Dieter Zetsche told reporters this week here at the North American International Auto Show.

Zetsche promoted DaimlerChrysler's Bluetec diesel technology, which will make its US debut this fall on the 2007 Mercedes E320 sedan. DaimlerChrysler says Bluetec is so clean it can meet emissions regulations in all 50 states, including the five states where diesels aren't sold because they can't meet emissions standards: California, Massachusetts, Maine, New York, and Vermont.

Zetsche said DaimlerChrysler plans to add Bluetec technology to other brands in its lineup, including Chrysler and Jeep.

Ford Motor Co. is displaying the Ford Reflex concept at the auto show, a sports car with a hybrid-diesel engine it says can get 65 miles per gallon.

Honda Motor Co., which already sells diesels in Europe, said it's monitoring US demand, while Nissan Motor Co. president and chief executive Carlos Ghosn said the company is working on diesels and will be ready if consumers demand them.

© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.
 
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Maybe we could do something to help this along?


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Posted: Jan 26 2007 at 7:26am | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

Read through the comments of the first link... nobody has any clue as to what is going on.  People seem to have forgotten that Diesel originally came from the by-products of Gasoline refinement.  Air Craft fuel (JP-8) is nothing but that by-product.  People have become so concerned with the enviroment, that they had to start adding additives to reduce the pollution created by the diesel. 

When I get a chance, I'm doing one portion on the Bio-diesel.  Not the corn fed, but the veg oil w/ 103 octane mix.  Out of everything there is to offer, the emissions equal the latest corn batch, the power is still there (and some dyno's show more), and it's cheap to produce.

It doesn't surprise me Auto Manufacturers are waiting to see what the public want.  Look at GM, they never listen to what people want.  The CEO was even qouted saying during intial gas price hike "our line of Big SUVs is what will keep us going"  Few months later, people didn't want big SUVs anymore. 

Hybrids are honestly a waste to me.  While you do get good mileage in town, highway hasn't changed much... and you can't really tow anything with it.  They claim it takes almost 6-8 years to get ahead on saving money on gas because the cars are so expensive.  Plus, people don't realize how much it would cost to replace some of that electric portion if it ever failed.



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Posted: Jan 26 2007 at 8:03am | IP Logged Quote phillyt

True, but here where I live the government puts a mandatory 30% of  mix of different kinds of oil into the diesel, so everytime i go to the gas station i´m putting biodiesel in. Cuts emissions way down, doesn´t eat into the power and supposedly it´s even good for the engine. We´ll see about that, as I pick up my car TODAY!!!! Countdown is T - 2 hours or so.... i can´t wait!
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Posted: Jan 26 2007 at 5:23pm | IP Logged Quote kcidmil

It should be interesting.  They claimed Bio diesel was safe for all vehicles here... turns out GM won't warranty any vehicle older than 02 or so if you put Bio in.  They would tear up the injection pumps

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Posted: Jan 28 2007 at 9:12pm | IP Logged Quote phillyt

That´s odd, but I guess our fuel could be different from yours. All diesels are using ths fuel, even my brother-in-law´s ´91 Mitsubishi...... no problems so far, with about a year of biodiesel
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Posted: Jan 29 2007 at 1:35pm | IP Logged Quote kink

i all of bosch injection pumps are bio diesel safe and many are oil safe,( in my mom´s mitsubishi  2500cc diesel  of 1998 i putt 40%of  oil(feg 100%) mix whith normal diesel )
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